Monday, November 27, 2006

Secularism to the core....

An email chain that I have received has the following contents.. May be this is what India as a country should adapt if we continue to suffer from terrorism...


***INDIA should pay serious attention to this Australian policy and amendits own soft approach to hooliganism in the name of religion. *

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid tohead off potential terror attacks. A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister JohnHoward, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face acrackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as h eir apparent to Howard,hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which hasSharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you", he said on national television.

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governingpeople in Australia: one the Australian law and another the Islamic law,that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independentcourts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity togo to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a betteroption", Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the othercountry. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically peoplewho don't want to be Australians, and who don't want ! to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he said.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques Quote: "IMMIGRANTS,NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge inpatriotism by the majority of Australians." "However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politicallyc orrect' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia." "However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand."

"This idea ofAustralia being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle.""This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials andvictories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"

"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese,Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of oursociety, Learn the language!""Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right; wing,political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christianprinciples, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture."

"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us." "If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like " A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.

We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others." This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining,whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, orOur Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.""If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."

How I wish we as a nation have this kind of spinal chord!


Krishna (#24094743) said...


The Jedi Pimpz said...

This is re-cycled twaddle. It always kills me when a nation of immigrants comments on immigration. (I have attached an original argument with another immigrant)

This would hold more water if it originated from a non-secular country like the United Kingdom but when it comes from secular countries like Australia and the US, do they not know it is their constitutional right to worship who they want and not be interfered with……In fact the government by law is not allowed to comment on any religion in Australia. I agree that sharia law has no place in a secular country, but to say that an immigrant should move to another country and adopt everything that country values is ridiculous and I question how many Australian migrants adopt foreign values fully?? For example in the said Bali I wonder how many Australians are practicing the Hindu faith? If I were to live in a muslim country I am sure I would find a way of drinking alcohol (I have heard enough stories of the fun that alone brings), I wouldn’t marry more than one person and I wouldn’t be marrying off my children.

(and if you ask me that is the way it should be)

And as for speaking English, I wonder how many of these locals can actually speak Austronesian ?? My guesses are none, now if the Islamic people? Asssuming they speak a foreign language stay on that large island long enough can they claim it as the national language? I am guessing at not – they would need to repeat the ancestors of Peter Costello and co and commit genocide and racially profile and kill all the non Islamic people….wait a minute ;o)

Let me add that I fully support kicking out foreign terrorists back to their own country wherever that may be – it’s common sense and already is a key part of a extradidition policy that most countries have with others (although some struggle, see Russia and Andrei Lugovoi).